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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    Quote Originally Posted by UnIoNfAn View Post
    If it aint broke dont fix it and the first half of the clintwood game showed that the T spread out and running the sweep out of it aint broke.
    What you folks seem to forget (and Counts pointed it out to me during that game) is that when Union kept getting yardage with that during the first half Clintwood called a T/O in the 2nd quarter and they widened out their outside LB's. After that T/O Union ran it again and got 4-5 yards after that, that play was stuffed. That's the reason they went to the spread. That play was not going to work anymore against Clintwood.
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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironlung View Post
    What you folks seem to forget (and Counts pointed it out to me during that game) is that when Union kept getting yardage with that during the first half Clintwood called a T/O in the 2nd quarter and they widened out their outside LB's. After that T/O Union ran it again and got 4-5 yards after that, that play was stuffed. That's the reason they went to the spread. That play was not going to work anymore against Clintwood.
    Clintwood did widen out and stop the sweep but if Union would have stayed in the T and ran barker up the gut for a few 4 or 5 yard carries every other down or so then that would have made clintwood pull back in. Union dont have the type of players to run the spread. Justas was mentioned by dawgs 2010, all offenses are designed to work and execution plays a huge roll in making any offense work, but you have to play to what you have to make it work. For example, Clintwood has a young qb who is just learning the possition so it would be kind of bad for the coach to run an air attack run and shoot offense with him. Union dont have the qb to run a spread. Their pass game needs to consist of bootleg play action passes and maybe a few slant rout passes out of the T or I formation. Ball controll offenses like appalachia used to run are very happy with 3 to 4 yards a down because every three downs you have a first down. It keeps the game low scoring but it sure helps to win doing that

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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    That's a nice theory to magically get 4-5 yards a carry up the middle but it didn't happen in that game early or late and it wasn't going to magically happen just because you wanted it to. That's why they started passing. They could have banged their heads against the wall and ran for no gain, loss of 2, no gain, or try to throw it and see if something will happen. Nothing really worked.
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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    Im pretty sure we were up 20 to 0 due to the sweep and the middle run. I may be wrong but isnt that how it happened?

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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    Quote Originally Posted by UnIoNfAn View Post
    Im pretty sure we were up 20 to 0 due to the sweep and the middle run. I may be wrong but isnt that how it happened?
    No..... 7 0 yes that opening drive was all about the sweep....the other scores were an INT return and a Pass on 3rd and long after a Cwood turnover.

    IMHO what is hurting Union's Power game is the lack of a true Blocking back.

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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    Union needs a blocking back and a front line that will go till the whistle blows too.

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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    Quote Originally Posted by Counts View Post
    No..... 7 0 yes that opening drive was all about the sweep....the other scores were an INT return and a Pass on 3rd and long after a Cwood turnover.

    IMHO what is hurting Union's Power game is the lack of a true Blocking back.

    Thanks for stating the obvious while I was gone.
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    Re: If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in .

    what hurts union's offense is that its so predictable, and they hardly ever run out of the I. They run out of the fullhouse backfield which basically telegraphs where the ball is going. We never employ misdirection out of the offense which is allegedly the fullhouse backfield's advantage. We can't kick so much as a damn field goal for a PAT, because special teams are such a small part of the game that we have to focus on other things. (Not my words, but obviously the rationale of our brilliant coaches.) Nathan Baker kicked a 38 yarder in crunchtime against richlands, but suddenly he cant make a pat. They're all horrible coaches. We have as much talent as GC. Our coaches are playing checkers while houseright is playing chess. I dont give a crap about political correctness at this point. Tiny, has to make a change or else we'll go through several miserable seasons.

    These coaches are all losers without exception and they must go now. We're about to go 4-6 with our most talented team in 5 or 6 seasons. next year we lose some big time skill players and linemen, and the result will likely be worse. They can't even manage a damn clock or their timeouts. What possible advantage do we gain in keeping this head coaching regime? Hell, I'll ask the question. Why, why, why did we get rid of a 7 time state champion so that we could hire a kid who's never had a head coaching job before, let alone a district championship?

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